In the first part of this episode of the Curious Realm host Christopher Jordan welcomes author and cryptid researcher Ken Gerhard to discuss his many years in the world of Cryptozoology. How has the field changed since going from an extreme fringe to a spotlight in the world of entertainment? Have these changes helped or hurt the world of Cryptozoology and what does the future hold for this science? In the second part of the episode, we welcome founder and lead investigator for 5×5 News, Mike Turber to discuss the recent incursion of Chinese balloon technology into US Skies. What do this incident and the mirroring incidents in Latin America and Canada foreshadow? Join the Curious Realm as we delve into the topics of Cryptozoology with Ken Gerhard and the Chinese balloon incursion with Mike Turber.